• That’s Harvey.

    In the day program I attend three afternoons a week, we do lots of different things, many of them involve physical exercises. Not exercise, but movement things. Often the instructions are vague for a reason – to let us come up with our own understanding of the task and see what we can share. One day the instruction was to talk a walk down the hall like you normally would, and then take a walk down the hall with a witness. In mindfulness the idea of the witness is thinking about what a situation looks like to someone else — not to your own personal feelings about how it looks. For example, I had a panic attack in the grocery store. My feelings were horrible, and it felt like the end of the world. But to a witness, it would just have looked like someone who was checking their shopping list more often than usual.

    One of the options was for the witness/companion to be nature, or an animal or something. I imagined a small cat walking next to me and it felt really nice. In discussions I mentioned that and thought how neat it was. I thought about how nice it would be to have a puppy hanging out with me like that, and that’s when I came up with the idea of an imaginary therapy dog. He’s Harvey, after the movie with Jimmy Stewart. So now I do my best to remember Harvey, and imagine what he might be doing. Sitting at my feet, wandering the room sniffing around, doing puppy things. He’s pretty low maintenance, too. Never piddles on the carpet!

    I don’t mean to make light of actual therapy animals, and I certainly don’t rate one. It’s really just the idea of having a little buddy around when I need him. A real dog is out of the question due to family restrictions, and to be honest I don’t know that I’d be able to take care of a dog as well as I take care of my children. Dogs are so much more work! I’ve never had to take my child out into the backyard in the dark cold of a February night just so they could pee.

    I had a mental image but wanted something representative, so I doodled a little drawing of him. I’m not a big tattoo guy (don’t have any) but if I did, I’d consider a tiny little version somewhere I would see on a regular basis. Maybe some day.

  • We went to a Halloween party – a rare public sighting of both of us together. It was a great time though and so much fun talking to friends I haven’t seen in a long time. And met a bunch of people who could be new friends. We both talked openly with some of them about what’s going on and it was nice to be able to vent and/or tell the tale. On my meds I’m not really supposed to drink. So..

    Drank too much. Went in with a two drink limit- very specifically two nice scotches. But they were too good and I had access to more so I did – no regrets though! So tasty! Unfortunately now I’m slightly hung over and my “hey it’s barely light out you should lie in bed wide awake” just went off. And I’m likely to miss the knitting party this morning that I was looking forward to. But it’s been months since a good party, And I think it was good for both of us to get out.

    Abilify is one of my meds and it’s a mood stabilizer. So sometimes it feels like I’m on a straight path across emotion. It won’t let me cry at good movies but it won’t let me be too far down either. But then there are weird times like right now when I feel like I’m on a high wire and looking down at my great friend depression but I can’t get down there to wallow and join the fun. Normally a hangover for me means a deep dive in the old psyche, but not as long as Sgt Abilify is on duty. So I’m up here, wide awake, headache and bored, not even able to be properly depressed. I suppose that’s a good problem to have.

    It was a good party though. Worth it!

  • As I mention in the About page, this is to record my journey. There are pages explaining everything up to now, but this is the first post in “realtime” and will be followed by posts as things happen, change, or I just feel like it.

    Monday I start ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) and I’m getting more anxious the closer it gets. But I’m excited to apply some science to a problem that thus far has felt more like magic and mystery than anything else. The last week has been a bit brighter than the previous months, much of it attributed to the hope of ECT’s effectiveness. But I understand that nothing is guaranteed.

    I said goodbye to work friends last week, as I’ll have to suspend work, driving, and anything too interesting through the treatments. They’ll be going on three times a week (MWF) for 2-4 weeks. My wife is going to work from home, and I have other relatives who will help me get from appointment to appointment — I’ll continue in my day treatment three times a week (TWTh) in the afternoons. I’m really hoping I’ll have the energy and concentration to do that, as I get a lot out of the group talk and mindfulness lessons we get.

    This weekend is about being restful, but also catching up on things I want to do before I got into this new unknown territory – setting up this blog, practicing playing music, running errands, etc. And I’m going to a halloween party tonight, energy willing.

    Apologies if there are redundancies in the backstory pages, and the posts coming. Memory is not great right now, and I like to type. Enjoy!

  • There is a great writeup here, but here is my description of the difference.

    This is typical depression for me:

    Sometimes you wake up and it takes a moment to settle in, like a fog. Other days you wake up and feel as if you’ve been buried in it. It’s the thickness of the air and the world that makes it hard to move. Every effort is exhausting. But there is no sleep to rejuvenate you, and by the time it’s proper sleeping time you won’t be able to.

    It’s not a sadness or a despair, nothing that satisfying. It’s a grey plasma that you have to push through to get to the normal goals everyone else takes for granted. Sitting. Showering. Talking. Pretending you’re fine. Luckily, the grey takes away the desire to do most things, so you don’t have to push as hard. But to everyone else it looks like calmness. Like quiet stillness. Or laziness. But there is something in the background yelling at you to keep moving, that where you are or what you are doing isn’t right, but that something never tells you where you should be. It never tells you what’s right, only wrong. No sitting this one out.

    If you live in the thick grey world for too long, it begins to look normal to everyone else. But every moment that you are stuck in the muddling mess is like the first and last moment. Every moment is like every single moment. You cannot see out of it, it’s not a cloud following you around, it’s the world your way, and nobody else seems to be caught by it.

    Eventually it will pass. Some wind will blow and it will clear away. Some morning you will wake up and it’ll be receding slowly. Slowly enough that you can’t see it move. But eventually you don’t feel it anymore. But the gray takes away the satisfaction of knowing it’s gone. Just like you can’t see out of the thickness, you can’t see into it. When it’s gone you won’t be able to remember how it felt or didn’t feel. You won’t be able to even believe it happens as intensely as it doesn’t. So when it’s gone it’s business as usual. And nobody congratulates you for clearing it, because they could never see it. And to be certain, the thickness never mentions it. The thickness just sits there and waits for the next day it finds you.

    So that’s what I used to call the “mental flu” and I’d have it for a few days or weeks every couple months, sometimes only a few times a year. Other times more frequently. But it always passes.

    For me, this major depressive episode (my first) has some similarities. The difference though is that it’s not like a dream. You don’t wake up from it, and it invades your every moment. The fog is different – the world is still in color, the thickness is still there – but it’s like a waking dream. It’s as if my normal depression was a dream about cold and ice, but you know you’re in a dream, and somehow you can sense that you might wake up and it’ll be all over. But this major depressive episode is like you woke up and you’re still freezing to death, and there’s no end in sight. It doesn’t get better, and it just always hurts. The moments you get warmth you still feel cold.

    If depression were a dip in your emotions that you fall in and out of, the major is a hole you fall into and the walls are too steep to see a way to climb.

    But that’s just me.

  • Depression can be treated with meds, talk therapy, group therapy, homeopathic methods, etc. Many people who experience depression get better. For those of us with Treatment Resistant Depression, it just keeps coming back. Some episodes don’t just end. And medication may help some, but really doesn’t solve the problem.

    Here’s a great article from the Mayo website.

  • My care team suggested the partial hospitalization plan (PHP), so I did an intake there.  Essentially a hospitalization but we were allowed to go home overnight because we had safe, supportive environments.   It was full days all week for three weeks, with group therapy, regular psychiatry consults, and education about mental health issues and some cognitive behavioral therapy.  Because of the program, I was horribly sad to miss the family trip to the East Coast to see my new niece, but Wife and Daughter made it.  When I was discharged I was a bit better, but still in the major depressive episode.  The transition from fulltime program to part time began immediately after. It is a similar program to the PHP, but only three days a week, for just the afternoons.  It’s also really helpful.  I also began going back to work for three hours a day, three times a week.  I was away from work for 6(?) weeks and the plan was to work half days through the end of the year unless I feel up to increasing earlier.  

    Despite the raft of medications I was on and the programs and therapy, the major depression continued.  The suicidal issues continued, which is hard on everyone, but I scheduled an intake interview with a doctor for Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) and begin those treatments in the coming weeks.  I have a large care team consisting of program therapists and nurses, psychiatrist, psychologist and even my primary doctor has been involved.  I’m also attending an evening support group for men called Face-It (https://www.faceitfoundation.org/) that looks like it’ll be a great long term support group.


    Work has been wonderfully supportive.  They have been so patient, understanding, and helpful.  I think this is where working for a Scandinavian company is really nice, as they have such a supportive culture and a leave of absence like this is taken with sincerity and no issues.  My boss here in town has been wonderful as well, and is working with me to get me back up on the horse, but in a way that’s healthy and good for everyone.  They may feel a bit guilty, as I was doing the job of two people while also building and managing a team.  In fact one of the founders just called to offer his support and stress that I shouldn’t push myself or overdo it and to take the time I need to get back up to a good speed.  We’ve also hired a few new members of the team, and that will help.


    Wife and the kids have been extraordinarily supportive and patient.  I’m very lucky to have them, and to be honest they’re the reason I’m alive today.  Having Son around this summer was wonderful, and it was tough to send him back to school but we keep in touch well and he’s doing so great there that he’s quite happy.  Dean’s list last year and so far straight A’s!  His absence this fall has actually helped Daughter and I become closer and that’s been awesome.  Sadly, she now has not only her competitions and practices, but her own car and a job, so we see less and less of her.  Working on the empty nest.  Wife’s been so helpful, and I couldn’t do this without her.
    This is truly the hardest thing I’ve ever done/been through.  But everyone’s support helps and reminds me that I’m loved.  I’m very grateful for my whole family and my friends.

    Part of my diagnosis is “Treatment Resistant Depression” which is what that sounds like.  Meds weren’t making any sizeable improvement — although the abilify leveled me out a bit — so we’re moving to the next step.

    On the 28th of October I begin ECT (Electroconvulsive therapy, not at the Mayo, but that’s a good info link) three days a week for 2-4 weeks.  Currently scheduled out for 3 weeks.  It’s a quick procedure, and I’ll be under general anesthesia each time.  Side effects vary, but there’s likely some short term memory loss, confusion, and maybe even cognitive issues.  But that all typically resets itself and there should be no long term side effects — except that the outlook for helping with the depression is super high.  Like 70 to 90 percent of patients.  So that’s a good thing.  But it’s scary, to be sure.

    I won’t be able to drive or work during the treatment period, and my day program at Abbott has rearranged my days to accommodate.  Wife will be working from home to monitor me and we have a complicated schedule to get me from place to place.   But it’s only a few weeks, so we’ll survive. 


    I’m actually hopeful about this even though I can still feel the depression, and my anxiety is a bit up, but that’s to be expected I guess.  I’m starting a blog to journal my experience here, but also to be able to look back and remember — it’s likely I won’t have many memories of the next three weeks or so.  My Psychologist says my memory of this whole summer will be pretty sketchy, as we tend to lose a lot of the memory of a major depressive episode.  Which is a little conflicting for me, because I’ve had some really good memories this summer.  Going to see my sister (twice!) and seeing everyone and just some of the family fun we’ve had — I’m hoping those memories are strong enough to stick.  🙂   Also, I’m going to work on recording my repertoire of concertina songs to see if I get any worse (or better!) through my “charging up.”   

  • At the end of May I had a physical. Since I’ve been on anti-depressants (2001+) every time I see the doc I get to fill out a PHQ-9, and usually get some discussion about the state of my mental health. As usual, we talked quick about it, and moved on. But I stopped the doc (who I love) and asked to back up a bit. I said that actually talking about it really moved me, and thought maybe I could talk to someone again in therapy. My doc said there was a perfect fit in the office, and gave me a referral.

    I also went on a solo trip out of town for a nephew’s graduation. It was great to see family, and I got to stay with my sister at her house on a beautiful island. Just an amazing place to be. But I was feeling awkward and depressed and the anxiety was just really starting to creep in. The four day trip was supposed to be something of a “wind down” for me and it was nice to get away from work for a while, but it didn’t wind me down at all — if anything, maybe a bit up. Overall a happy trip, but I was starting to see there were some bigger issues at hand.

    On the 2nd of June there was a neighborhood festival that I usually enjoy. My son and I will walk among the exhibits and booths and people watch and chat. He was back from college but busy that day, and the wife and daughter were off on their own as well. I went alone and all I could feel was being alone, and seeing all of these people being happy in the summer sun. I just wanted to slap them all and tell them it wasn’t okay and there wasn’t anything to be happy about.

    By the 13th I was having trouble scheduling the Psychologist – a very popular one indeed. My wife knew if I called the scheduling line they could hook me up with a social worker who would assess and recommend someone else. Looking at this psychologists profile I really knew they would “get” me, so finding someone else was not helping my outlook.

    And it was a bit of a kerfuffle. The first appointment I showed up only to find out they tried to call me and tell me the social worker was sick. Fine. The next day I show up and the social worker asks me the standard questions, and looks on the schedule and finds a doc in the next town over who specializes in Postpartum depression and domestic abuse. Neither of which apply to me, but I’m game so I take the appointment.

    At the interview with the social worker I was asked about my support circle. I said my wife and children were my primary support. What about friends? I thought about it and realized I didn’t have any friends that I felt like people I could go to for support. That actually disturbed me more than anything, and it made me realize I’d fallen off the earth of my friend circles. (To anyone reading this who is a friend, I’ll throw in the caveat that my understanding of who and how I could go to for support is different now. Nobody need feel slighted!)

    I was still having no luck getting The Good Psychologist, and the routine was to call the scheduling line and see if there were openings — but an intake is a special appointment, so it was harder to find. Luckily, my primary put in a good word and I got put on a waiting list, and eventually got to see my new Psychologist.

    In June it began to manifest as more severe generalized anxiety and panic attacks.  My psychologist referred me to a psychiatrist.  I’ve had therapy in the past but not with doctors who “get me” so well and really understand and care.  They’re the best I could ask for.

    I really liked the Psychiatrist, but as it happens it’s the same one as another family member, so she set up a transfer to a colleague who happened to work on the Partial Hospitalization Program, which was convenient.

    By July/August I had entered a major depressive episode for the first time, which is a completely different beast.   The anxiety and depression increased and I had trouble making it to work on some days.  I was getting new meds that gave me some pretty wicked side effects and that didn’t help the hopelessness or anxiety.  That’s about the time my passive suicidal ideations evolved to more serious issues (planning, no intent) and at times I have concerns about my impulse control.  My company and boss and the founders all love me and value me, and had suggested I take some time off to get my meds sorted out, so I took a week off.  That week didn’t help, as I was without the daily structure and just inside my head the whole time.  

    My care team and I talked about a day program three afternoons a week, but that didn’t seem like enough. Things had gotten bad enough that we were all talking about hospitalization, and my worry about being away from work was pretty much irrelevant. So I accepted my situation and decided to go with the Partial Hospitalization.

    So we called my boss back and told him I’d be out for another few weeks. He was absolutely supportive and passed on that the CEO back in Scandinavia was “200% behind me.”

    I had no idea what to expect, but as it turns out, that’s the right attitude.

  • In the fall of 2018 my son, our oldest child, went off to college. Many hour away. We’re so close I used to tell him that his leaving will be like losing a limb. When we did finally send him off it was really quite hard on me, but I moved on. I got to visit him and see that he was still my close son, and even saw evidence that he was homesick or missed the family. Hard as it was, it didn’t feel like a traumatizing event worthy of a depressive episode.

    I do remember a month or so later when I was due to take a business trip to Scandinavia, I was worried about my depression when I was far away and alone. I had my anxiety (don’t like to talk to strangers, feel self conscious in public, etc.) but that was with me for decades and I knew how to deal with it. Or avoid strangers. But even then I had my depression, though I powered through it and had a great time and did some great work.

    In december a peer quit our company. We were both a little overworked, but this meant I was going to be taking on more work than usual. Love the job, love the company, love the people I work with, so it’s no big deal working a bit harder or more. That and we had plenty of open positions, so help would soon be on the way.

    Again, I still don’t track my major episode to that person leaving, or to the company or the work. I think in the end it’s more about a growing dysthymia and additive depressive episodes – or “mental flu” as I called it.

    Regardless, December was the beginning. I stopped seeing friends, doing hobbies, going out, doing anything except work or escaping into video games. Sure, there were family functions, even vacations, but through it all I became more and more isolated. Still wearing my mask, so even my wife couldn’t see the growing horrible.

    January, typically a quiet work month, was bonkers. We added a member to my team which helped immensely, but I was still juggling the workload as well as larger clients. And looking for more “me”s to add to the team. It’s hard to find more “me”s because of the experience we were looking for, and the type of job. Not impossible, but tricky.

    By the end of May it was getting worse, but it still felt like the usual depression, though I hadn’t really thought about the fact that instead of a few days or a week, it had stretched out into months.

  • How long I’ve been dealing with depression and anxiety

    I know that during middle school and high school I wrote moody poetry. I listened to “dark” music. And one day I was online talking to a friend and they misinterpreted something I said as a suicidal ideation. They went to their guidance counselor, who contacted my schools counselor, who had a “chat” with me. I clarified that it was a mistake, and that I was fine.

    On the way home, Mom picked me up and the first thing she said was an angry “don’t you ever do anything like that again!” – we never spoke of it again. Once, much later, my dad alluded to the incident in discussing how we talk to people online, and how things can be interpreted. Those were the only two times the incident was brought up. It was the 80’s and our town wasn’t progressive enough that common kids would get therapy or meds.

    The thing was, it really was a misunderstanding. What surprised me was that I wasn’t really feeling suicidal then. But that I did feel that was quite often. I know now that I was depressed and maybe even glanced off some severe episodes, but even personally wrote it off as young angst.

    Later, in my 2o’s I distinctly remember sleeping through weekends. That’s called hypersomnia, and it’s sleeping too much. I was doing it to escape, and I did it as much as I could. Again, young angst.

    By the time I was in my 30’s and having children of my own, I had settled into a routine. I would get what I thought of as the “mental flu” — you’d feel yourself coming down with something, then it would hit (hard) and you’d be in the midst of it, and eventually you would recover and soon enough be back to normal. This could be over the course of a few days or even a week or two.

    Just after the turn of the century, the economy turned and I got laid off. Office closed and we all got our walking papers. I remember at one of the happy hours we had after the office had been shut down, I turned to a friend and asked her if she’d ever dealt with depression. I was in a rough spot. She turned me on to a walk-in counseling center in the area, and I stopped in.

    Right away they pegged me as having clinical depression and anxiety, and in a fairly strong way. Since those days I’ve taken more than my share of PHQ-9 questionnaires about how you’re feeling. That wiki article includes a link to an online version. You should take it and see what it says for you.

    I was hooked up with a Psychiatrist who gave me some meds. Now, you have to understand that someone with depression get good at wearing masks. Hiding depression is the best way to not have to deal with it. So I took the meds and convinced the psychiatrist that I was fine after a few weeks of meetings. Maybe he knew I wasn’t, maybe he didn’t. Maybe I was fine. Regardless, life carried on.

    Another decade passes and the Wife is seeing a psychologist and suggests I do too. So we get matching his and hers Psychologist/Psychiatrists and do separate therapy. It was fun and all, and I got something out of it, as I remember scream-singing to Dresden Dolls a number of times after appointments. So the Psychologist was stirring the hornet’s nest nicely. But after a few months I was pronounced fine again and sent on my way.

    Interesting note: In one of my first meetings with that psychologist, I was talking about how hard it was to have depression and anxiety, and how exhausting it was. And that I really wasn’t having it and didn’t want to have to put up with it for the rest of my life. We talked about my suicidality, and she essentially told me to go home and think about it. Almost daring me to do it. I called her our on it at our next session and she said some people just need to be given the freedom to kill themselves. That it would have been unfortunate, but that sometimes you have to let them go. It seemed ballsy, but I always wondered about the ethics of it. Obviously I’m still here, so I didn’t kill myself that week, but in some ways it felt like she was calling a bluff. I was truly suicidal – I had plans but no intent, but suicidal nonetheless. Overall I liked her, but she wasn’t that effective.

    Skip forward another near-decade. and begin reading here.

  • We had been talking in PHP about wearing badges that indicated something about ourselves. For some people, it’s fashion, others it’s a behaviour. But these badges allow other people to make assumptions, for better or for worse. I was saying that because I’m candid about the fact that I served in the Marine Corps, I felt I wear a badge that lets people assume my masculinity. As a result, I can do things like knit, cross-stitch, not like sports, etc – things that many would consider “un-manly” but because I have my Marine badge, I can point to it and say “Nope, government certified as manly.”

    So I was lamenting that there is nothing to show people we have depression. Just by looking at us (if we have our faces on) they have no idea of the torment we may be dealing with inside. So I offered the idea that we should all wear a scarlet D to let people know we’re depressed. Added bonus that the original scarlet letter was more about shame, and the fact that many people attach shame and embarrassment to depression.

    This also comes into play when you’re in a depressive episode but you laugh. Or you smile. Or you look like you’re having a pleasant enough time. The Scarlet D would remind people that even though you look “normal” you’re still suffering inside. There is a feeling of invalidation when you’re seemingly happy but dealing with a bad episode. You worry that your apparent happiness means you’re not depressed anymore – or worse yet that you never were and you were faking it. Depression can make you think funny things sometimes.